@espectalll if you're implying matrix, I think @mike would need a whole new rack for that

@calvin @mike Yeah, definitely consumes more than XMPP for now and thus is harder to self-host... but XMPP is messed up regardless, putting design choices aside it's broken up in too many standards and it's hard to find servers which implement even the most important extensions

@sathariel @calvin @mike You can't ask #normie people (even among sysadmins and devs) to set up their own servers, otherwise it will never catch up lol

@sathariel @calvin @mike You need enough people to make it worthwhile using

at the very least you'll need #normie devs

@sathariel @calvin @mike yeah, that's what Matrix is for

but right now I don't know of any Matrix server that doesn't feel like Mastodon lol

@zeta @mike @calvin @sathariel Dendrite, you mean? Just found out about it as you wrote the toot lol https://github.com/matrix-org/dendrite

@sathariel @calvin @mike there's desktop clients lmao

@sathariel @calvin @mike Probably your best choice would be Weechat + something like QWeeChat?

Here's the Matrix extension for Weechat: https://github.com/torhve/weechat-matrix-protocol-script

@sathariel @calvin @mike here's a screenshot of QWeeChat in all its meme dev not setting up a good theme glory btw

@Vann same

@lnxw48a1 I plan on using Prosody.